more than enough и more than definitely gen.

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Здравствуйте еще раз. Можно ли использовать more than enough в смысле "более, чем достаточно"

Например: it is more than enough - этого более, чем достаточно.

И more than definitely в смысле "более, чем вероятно"

Например, как ответ на фразу - I'll see you tomorrow
- It's (will be) more than definitely

Спасибо всем, кто поможет.

[Wolverin]

1) да. ("хватит уже")
2) это скорее "совершенно точно", наверняка

[48]

2. наречие здесь не используют. прмлагательное лучше.

[johnstephenson]

1. is OK.
2. 'more than definitely' isn't English. Use 'more than likely', which is a very common expression.

[Amor 71]

more than definitely ?
definitely:
определённо, ясно; точно; несомненно; обязательно; абсолютно точно; наверняка; действительно; безусловно

Что может быть более, чем перечисленное? Мокрее воды и горячее огня?

[Wolverin]

2. yes, it is. while Oxford dons would most likely eschew it in favor of something that sounds right and does not grate on their sensitive ear, people on the street may just opt for it. there's nothing in the grammar book that prohibits this usage.

[johnstephenson]

Wolverin: Just because some people use it on some streets, doesn't make it English. If the asker's translating poorly-written colloquial Russian, then it may be OK, but otherwise it ain't Inglish, I'd say.

'More than likely', on the other hand, is a common set expression. 'более, чем' = 'more than' + 'вероятно' = 'probable/likely' (not 'definite', at least to my knowledge). Result: 'more than likely'. What's the problem?

[интроьверт]

2.
\\\ "более, чем вероятно"
вероятно ~= probable, и от этого стоит плясать

[Wolverin]

The problem is that I have heard it myself.
I seriously doubt it if they would insert this phrase in an NYT editorial.
Well, I say it is a 'semi-colloquial' one.
Perhaps, it shall make things easier for you if you think of 'more than' used as an intensifier. I am not saying it makes the phrase pretty, quite to the contrary, but it works.
In my view (and I am in no way questioning your expertise, it must be a rather ugly one to you), it emphasises a unique versatility of English.

[интроьверт]

i think the information asker now has is more than enoughly :)

[crockodile]

in addition, we should remember, that at least three large English-speaking countries (US, UK, Australia) speak pretty "different languages", saying nothing about India with its 1.324 bln population, and English (hah) is an official language there.)))

[johnstephenson]

It's not about whether it's ugly to me, it's just about whether people use it. I've never heard of it, but don't believe me....
Google hits:
* 'more than definitely' = 27,400 hits.
* 'more than likely' = 11,100,000 hits.

And 'more than likely' is even in the MT dictionary:
https://www.multitran.ru/c/m/l1=2&l2=1&s=more+than+likely

"I rest my case, milord...."

[Wolverin]

you see, crocko, it's a delicate business. the way a native speaker perceives, processes, and evaluates a phrase is quite different from how we deal with it.
the intrinsic, embedded sense of language is what we lack.
take, for example, the notorious subject of English articles.
the 'rules of'engagement' seem easy (don't they?), but the real-life usage is incredibly complex.
Any student of English has to go through hell hoping in vain not to make too many errors there.
And no educated native speaker would ever use articles incorrectly - it's like a 'quality stamp' in their ID. Even if he/she is very drunk, or stoned, or both.

[Wolverin]

John, I was not talking about 'more than likely' at all.
But you know what? OK, you have convinced me.
I shall try to overcome a nagging doubt in the back of my mind.

[johnstephenson]

Your English seems very good to me. If it's not native, then it's close-to-native. You've just been mixing with the wrong people, going to the wrong parties and walking down the wrong side streets late at night!

[crockodile]

johnstephenson, about different dialects, I think you will like this one (I love it):
http://vimeo.com/146956524
(Comedy Club)

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@johnstephenson 17.01.2018 0:15
My Google is better than yours:

(just copied and pasted)
"more than definitly" - about 24,000,000 results (0.43 seconds)

"more than enough" - about 67,100,000 results (0.47 seconds)

And now look at your numbers, they are so funny.
teheetEheetehEEteH

Seriously speaking, of course I will more than likely use "more than lucky".
Well... I already use it.

I appreciate your help!

Всем спасибо, кто помог!

[johnstephenson]

crockodile: Hilarious! I especially liked: "Can I call you Jimmy?"
This clip's similar, though not as good as yours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzS8ANZBRNo

British English alone has lots of different local accents, which is surprising given that it's a very small country. A lot of English people, for example, can't understand the Scots, especially Glaswegians. US English must be even worse. I suspect the same's also true in Russia/the FSU.

In addition, in Britain there's a big difference in accents between the different social classes in Britain. Here's a well-known clip from the 1960s satirical TV series 'The [David] Frost Report':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpZkKKbDgA

[johnstephenson]

Ковлов etc: Lies, all lies, I tell you!
* http://goo.gl/KE7EXL
* http://goo.gl/xdJbgx

You've obviously got the government version of Google, known as Google Politician. It automatically distorts all statistics....