Nothing succeeds like failure gen.

[Krio]

Прошу креатива :))

контекст вот такой: Nothing succeeds like failure, as the saying goes.

[%&$]

Беда не приходит одна.
Пришла беда – отворяй ворота.
Кому не везет, у того петух не несет.

[black_velvet]

Иногда решительный шаг вперед - результат хорошего пинка сзади ))

[VIadimir]

Вообще-то, the saying goes "nothing succeeds like success."
В Вашем случае может "опыт, сын ошибок трудных"-kind-of thing
Ошибки тоже - шаг к успеху..?

[black_velvet]

Они развили пословицу.

[Interex]

Как говорится, горе всегда объективно, маркиза.

[nephew]

контекст нужен :))
In the right hands, nothing succeeds like failure

[Krio]

nephew, специально для Вас :)
ссылка на статью
http://politicsandstuff.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1989

[nephew]

эффект домино

[black_velvet]

А у меня ссылка не открывается почему-то... хнык

[Krio]

2 black_velvet:

NOTHING succeeds like failure, as the saying goes. And nowhere is this dismal truth more evident than in our financial regulatory system, one year after the bankruptcy filing of Lehman Brothers.

Even though calamitous lending practices laid waste to the nation’s economy, surprisingly little has changed about how the financial arena operates and is supervised. Sure, a couple of venerable brokerage firms have vanished, but many of the same players remain on the scene, in the same positions of power.

Senior regulators who stood idly by for years as financial firms built their houses of cards have been rewarded with even bigger jobs or are jockeying for increased responsibilities. The Federal Reserve Board, for example, wants to become the financial system’s uber-regulator, even though its officials did nothing as banks made deadly decisions to lend recklessly and leverage themselves to the max.

Awarding increased power to those who failed in their oversight duties flies in the face of all notions of accountability. Imagine hiring Angelo R. Mozilo, the former chief of Countrywide Financial, to run a global financial institution, or installing E. Stanley O’Neal, who presided over a disastrous period at Merrill Lynch, at the helm of a major investment firm.

Yet those in the public sector ask us to believe that regulators who snoozed during the credit bubble will be alert to emerging problems on their beats when the next mania begins.

That’s asking a lot, isn’t it?

Here’s a novel thought. Instead of creating more regulations to try to prevent this kind of mess from recurring, why not figure out how to hold regulators accountable when they perform as poorly as they did in recent years?

[black_velvet]

Senior regulators who stood idly by for years as financial firms built their houses of cards have been rewarded with even bigger jobs or are jockeying for increased responsibilities.
Да, тут нужно еще подумать..

[nephew]

кому война, а кому мать родна

[cyrill]

тут вывернутая наизнанку поговорка, что-то типа
- без труда - вот и рыбка из пруда
- за ошибки расплачиваемся поощрениями
-

[black_velvet]

Это что-то вроде украл на сотню - вор, украл на миллион (ну и т.д.).

Если с переиначиванием пословиц, то могу предложить
'Проигравших не судят'

[Krio]

спасибо огромное, еще буду думать.

а вот с этим пассажем как быть:
Instead of creating more regulations to try to prevent this kind of mess from recurring, why not figure out how to hold regulators accountable when they perform as poorly as they did in recent years?

*mess from recurring* как бы получше передать?

[black_velvet]

просто
.. чтобы больше такое не повторилось
чем плохо?

А что за сайт? Мне браузер выдает, что forbidden,
а так хочется..

[black_velvet]

или - не повторЯлось

[Krio]

вот интересное объяснение "пословицы" нашлось: :)

...Such a truth telling clown would announce: "Nothing succeeds like failure."
...
He would use Bush as an example....Yes, the voters knew. But why they chose Bush would defy even Shakespeare's infinitely complex mind. Do millions identify with Bush because he screws up?
http://www.counterpunch.org/landau01222005.html

...а если так попробовать:
Пословица гласит: «Провал – путь к успеху»
?

[Krio]

2 black_velvet

не знаю, в чём причина. гляньте здесь:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/business/13gret.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065

[black_velvet]

Да, мне politicsandstuff.org хочется..

Вот вам еще парочка вариантов:
Без труда вытянешь рыбку из пруда.
И совсем наше )) - кто не работает, тот ест.

[Krio]

"кто не работает, тот ест" - хорошо... но жестковато-то как-то :)

и вроде бы последний вопрос:
что-то are jockeying for increased responsibilities у меня не совсем вяжется:

Senior regulators who stood idly by for years as financial firms built their houses of cards have been rewarded with even bigger jobs or are jockeying for increased responsibilities.

[black_velvet]

..всяким правдами и неправдами добиваются еще больших полномочий..

[threecats]

The idea is - провал способствует успеху или наша пословица по такому случаю -на ошибках учатся.
And how about Первый блин комом. Тоже через failure and lesson learned with the first crepe, the rest will come out good.