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 Brains

link 11.02.2007 8:25 
Subject: Подозрительная конструкция напоследок ling.
Переводил-переводил, и под конец попалась какая-то мутная фраза, которую я оказался не в силах уверенно понять до конца. Гляньте, добрые люди,— я не гоню насчёт one in three?


In the U.K., in five years, Asda has managed to increase the percentage of its customers who buy clothes from 8 percent to one in three.
Однако если в английской сети магазинов Asda число покупателей одежды пять лет назад составляло 8 процентов, то к концу этого периода её приобретал уже один покупатель из трех.

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 8:30 
Correct. :-) or "каждый третий"

 Brains

link 11.02.2007 8:41 
Спасибо! Стиль ещё у этого аффтара как у местных жжистов… Но всё-таки, почему in, а не of?

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 8:55 
I cannot get hold of a decent grammar book just now, but consider this

"one in three" = one [each, person, etc] in [a group of] three [five, ten, a hundred] etc.

"one of three" = there is a group [aset number of certain] things and one of them is specifically this object
(one of ten influential politicians, one of five important rules, one of three frequently asked questions, etc. )

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 9:02 
By way of further clarification:

One in three customers buys on-line. (every third customer buys on-line)

One of three customers in the shop bought a book (there were only three customers at the shop at the time and one of them bought a book)

 Brains

link 11.02.2007 9:10 
Спасибо опять. Вполне исчерпывающе.

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 9:14 
Us blondes ... "We aim to please" (c) :-)

 senin

link 11.02.2007 9:18 
in UK u can use modern english which is quite different

 Brains

link 11.02.2007 9:23 
Alexis a.k.a. Althea, ROTFL!!! Это прекрасное утро! :-))))

 senin

link 11.02.2007 9:23 
also two years ago english grammar was totally cancelled in the UK schools because of its total stupidness in the raw with modern english

 Brains

link 11.02.2007 9:27 
2 senin
HORRORS! And I mean it…

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 9:41 
2Brains
I'm with you on both counts, dear Sir :-)

2senin
We live in parallel worlds, methinks ...

 kintorov

link 11.02.2007 9:51 
2senin, you must be from another world or a Martian.

 senin

link 11.02.2007 11:45 
dear "Sirs", did Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the second touch your shoulders with her sword??? If not. Don't use "Sir". U make me sad.

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 13:36 
2senin
sweetie, go play in your own sandbox, won't you luv :-)

 mahavishnu

link 11.02.2007 14:07 
Один чуть-чуть притих, но вот уже другой на подходе.
"english grammar was totally cancelled in the UK schools because of its total stupidness". Oh, how dandy!

 senin

link 11.02.2007 14:19 
to mahavishnu

it's not what u say. It's a kind of true story.

 Alexis a.k.a. Althea

link 11.02.2007 14:53 
2mahavishnu
re. english grammar (sic)

The source of the Nile - either the Sun or the Mirror (although further research is required) :-)

 summertime knives

link 11.02.2007 14:56 

 senin

link 11.02.2007 15:25 
to summertime knives
in London we've got around 14 500 000 unofficial population. Which increased significantly during last 20 years. Out of them --- 3 500 000 jungle bunnies (blacks), 2 000 000 chinese, 2 000 000 east europeans, 3 000 000 indians and non black muslims, 2 000 000 irish & scottish, and eventually ENGLISH --- around 2 000 000.Foreigners change its environment and talk manner so fast u can only imagine. If u study at school and get the best GCSE it will not bring u any money. For ex. if i'd say to english girl (i want to shag) i'm an electrician --- it'd impress her more than i'd say i'm an accounter. The reason --- electrician makes at least 14£ an hour, accounter 8-10£. So who needs to be literate? Read Kiroyaki "rich father,poor father".

 Madjesty

link 11.02.2007 15:29 
shag for love ...%)

 summertime knives

link 11.02.2007 15:34 
to senin

nobody needs to.
but this is a forum for translators and many here are slightly fussy about grammar

 pupil

link 11.02.2007 15:39 
any chance to impress'er saying i'm a translator? :) really inarrested

 mahavishnu

link 11.02.2007 15:49 
Сенин, вы что, окончили среднюю школу в Великобритании? Когда? На каких уровнях Вы там учились? Что такое accounter?

 summertime knives

link 11.02.2007 15:52 
to pupil

chance to impress the guy by saying that some people care about grammar

 senin

link 11.02.2007 16:02 
to pupil
If u say'er "I'm a translator" use "interpreter" than she'll get it. But will not be impressed. Ur wages could reach 15-20£ per hour but on a part time basis. Yearly salary could be even lower than bus drivers' one --- which is average for London. Money talks.

 senin

link 11.02.2007 16:22 
to mahavishnu
about my achievements --- it's personal, about accounter --- it's just commonly used for accountant. Nobody say accountant.

 mahavishnu

link 11.02.2007 18:56 
How very interesting! Never heard of this before.
Nobody sayS accountant where, in London?

 senin

link 11.02.2007 19:48 
to mahavishnu
I just write as I talk my china plate. Anyway don't take it too hard, earwig of it is not pete tong...
OK today i think i'll tumble down the sink
take care!

 mahavishnu

link 11.02.2007 23:03 
2 Alexis a.k.a. Althea:
Слушайте, а может, и впрямь прав Сенин, что в Британии ТАК уже не говорят, или я уже совсем стар стал?
"One third of employers have to give their staff remedial lessons in basic English and maths, a survey suggests."

 kintorov

link 12.02.2007 6:11 
2mahavishnu

Numerical expressions are usually singular, but can be plural if the individuals within a numerical group are acting individually:
• Fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money.
• One-half of the faculty is retiring this summer.
One-half of the faculty have doctorates.
• Fifty percent of the students have voted already

 d.

link 12.02.2007 6:58 
прав был великий В - частный случай постоянной Планка в действии...
ой-вей (с)
sic transit gloria forumorum..

 mahavishnu

link 12.02.2007 13:22 
d, это Вы обо мне?

 d.

link 12.02.2007 13:25 
абсолютно нет, тут есть экземпляр один
а что вы на свой счёт приняли вдруг?

 mahavishnu

link 12.02.2007 13:41 
Спросонья не понял.

 

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