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 Redarmy

link 21.09.2004 7:19 
Subject: Various patrol designations
Evening one and all,

I'm researching an assignment on UN peace-keeping terminology and need some proper Russian o pass, and which gives reasonable cover for the deployment, execution, and extraction phases of the ambush patrol. A path along a wooded valley floor would be a classic, if rather obvious, example.

Laying an Ambush

To be successful an ambush patrol must deploy into the area covertly, ideally under the cover of darkness. The patrol will establish secure and covert positions overlooking the killing zone. Usually, two or more cut off groups will be sent out a short distance from the main ambushing group into similarly covert positions. Their job is twofold; firstly to give the ambush commander early-warning of approaching enemy (usually by radio), and secondly, when the ambush is initiated, to prevent any enemy from escaping. Another group will cover the rear of the ambush position and this give all round defence to the ambush patrol.

Care must be taken by the ambush commander to ensure that fire from any weapon cannot inadvertently hit any other friendly unit.

Waiting

Having set the ambush, the next phase is to wait. This could be for a few hours or a few days depending on the tactical and supply situation. It is obviously much harder for an ambush patrol to remain covert and alert if sentry rostas, shelter, sleeping, sanitary arrangements, food and water, have to be considered. Ambush patrols will almost always have to be self-sufficient as re-supply would not be possible without compromising their covert position.

Executing an Ambush

The arrival of an enemy in the area should be signalled by one of the cut-off units. This may be done by radio or by some other signal, but must be done silently. The ambush commander will have given a clear instruction for initiating the ambush. This might be a burst from an automatic weapon, use of an explosive device (such as a claymore mine), or possibly a simple whistle blast. When the ambush commander judges that the ambush will be most effective he gives the signal.

After the firefight has been won, the now compromised ambush patrol will need to leave the area as soon as practical. Before this is done it is a common practice to clear the killing zone by checking bodies for intelligence, taking prisoners, and treating any enemy wounded. If communication orders permit, a brief contact report may be sent. This done, the ambush patrol will leave the area by a pre-determined route.

A “standing” patrol is defined as follows:

NATO) A patrol which will be of a strength decided by the commander allotting the task. Its task may be reconnaissance, listening, fighting, or a combination of these. It differs from a reconnaissance, fighting, or listening patrol in that, having taken up its allotted position, it is not free to manoeuvre in the performance of its task without permission.

Last but not least I've been having some trouble with the term 'mounted patrol' - after plenty of research, the most I've been able to come up with is мотопатруль, which mainly seems to be used with regard to motorcyle patrols and one instance of моторизованный дозор which I found on the Internet. Дозор на БМ? Anyone help me out here with the proper Russian military designation?

I'm a New Zealander and live in New Zealand, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Reuben.

 Vedun

link 21.09.2004 10:10 
ambush patrol - секрет
Laying an Ambush - поставить / установить секрет
Waiting - отдельно не встречал, но скорее всего что-то вроде "несение службы в секрете" или "несение дозорной службы"
Executing an Ambush - даже не знал что такое бывает. Круто! из разряда "специально для дураков и военных"... :))))))) может быть что-то вроде "срабатывание секрета при наступании на него противником"? :)))))))
“standing” patrol - укрепленный секрет (или закрепленный? - точно не помню)
моторизованный дозор и дозор на БМ это одно и то же. А вообще, это зависит от того, на чем он mounted. Вполне может быть и "верховой", если на лошадях. :-Р

Хайль Гитлер! то есть, эээ... Kill them all!.. Привет НАТО, короче. :-Р

 Redarmy

link 21.09.2004 10:25 
Нет, то, что я именно хотел, как-то стерлось... мне нужен перевод следующих терминов: 'escort patrol', 'ambush patrol', 'standing patrol' and 'mounted patrol'.

У меня есть следующие варианты - "группа сопровождения", "группа перехвата", "неподвижный дозор" и "моторизованный дозор/мотопатруль/дозор на БМ". Мне надо или потворждение или другие (серьезные) варианты.

 Redarmy

link 21.09.2004 10:26 
Mounted patrol means a patrol in [a] vehicle(s).

 Vedun

link 21.09.2004 11:11 
ambush patrol - секрет
escort patrol - конвой
standing patrol - пост
mounted patrol - патруль (моторизованный)

"Мне надо или потворждение или другие (серьезные) варианты" - мое дело предложить, а кому не нравится, тот не ест.
:-Р

 Vedun

link 21.09.2004 11:16 
PS. reconnaissance patrol - дозор,
fighting patrol - дозор для разведки боем
listening patrol - ???? (они с закрытыми глазами сидят, что ли?)
:-Р

 Vedun

link 21.09.2004 11:18 
PPS. Reuben, он же RedArmy - НАТОвский шпиён.
:)))))))

 Redarmy

link 21.09.2004 13:14 
You'll tell me when I'm supposed to laugh won't you... I simply thought you were taking the piss.

 Vedun

link 22.09.2004 8:28 
Rare does it happen when I take the piss. More usually I make friendly fun. Until and unless someone pisses me off first.

As to prompting you on "when I'm supposed to laugh" - look for obvious signs. Called 'smiles'. Will you?

:-P

 Redarmy

link 22.09.2004 13:24 
Lol, not sleeping for days makes you kinda touchy... so, where'd you learn these patrol terms? Military service?
Секрет - поставить / установить секрет - it wdn't be military slang would it?

Incidentally, taking the piss can be in friendly fun :p

 Vedun

link 23.09.2004 6:46 
where'd you learn these patrol terms? Military service? - And this also.

Секрет - поставить / установить секрет - it wdn't be military slang would it?

Does this looks like slang:

К наиболее характерным признакам совместной специальной операции по ликвидации незаконных вооруженных формирований относятся: объединенные действия вооруженных сил и других войск Российской Федерации, правоохранительных органов и специальны

 

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