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 nk234

link 3.11.2005 14:51 
Subject: dare / dare to
Помогите пожалуйста!
Как употребляется глагол dare? С to или без?
Существует ли какое-нибудь правило?
Спасибо

 AnnaB

link 3.11.2005 14:59 
Информация из The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000:
Depending on its sense, the verb dare sometimes behaves like an auxiliary verb (such as can or may) and sometimes like a main verb (such as want or try). When used as an auxiliary verb, dare does not change to agree with its subject: Let him say that if he dare. It also does not combine with do in questions, negations, or certain other constructions: Dare we tell her the truth? I dare not mention their names. Finally, it does not take to before the verb that follows it: If you dare breathe a word about it, I'll never speak to you again. When used as a main verb, dare does agree with its subject (If he dares to show up at her house I'll be surprised), and it does combine with do (Did anyone dare to admit it?). It may optionally take to before the verb following it: No one dares (or dares to) speak freely about the political situation. The auxiliary forms differ subtly in meaning from the main verb forms in that they emphasize the attitude or involvement of the speaker while the main verb forms present a more objective situation. Thus How dare you operate this machinery without proper training? expresses indignation at the action, whereas How do you dare to operate this machinery without proper training? is a genuine request for information. When dare is used as a transitive verb meaning “challenge,” only main verb forms are possible and to is required: Anyone who dares him to attempt it will be sorry.

 мilitary

link 3.11.2005 15:01 
я бы сказал так - dare - просить, dare to - осмеливаться сделать (что-л).

 Mo

link 3.11.2005 15:03 
гм-ммм. смотря чего сказать надо...

"But he that dares not grasp the thorn
Should never crave the rose." (Anne Bronte)

He who dares wins!

Чаще, конечно с 'to'......

 AnnaB

link 3.11.2005 15:05 
мilitary, как раз в значении просить глагол dare употребляется только с to
[+ to infinitive] I dare you to ask him to dance.

 Dimking

link 3.11.2005 15:17 
Люди, это где глагол dare приобрел значение "просить"?

 Dimking

link 3.11.2005 15:25 
military, насчет "я бы сказал так" - в классической грамматике уже все давно расписано, как "так" и как "не так", i dare say.

 мilitary

link 3.11.2005 15:27 
dare (ASK) Show phonetics
verb [T]
to ask someone to do something which involves risk:
Wear the low-cut blouse with your pink shorts - go on, I dare you!
[+ to infinitive] I dare you to ask him to dance.

dare Show phonetics
noun [C]
something you do because someone dares you to:
He jumped in the river at twelve o'clock last night UK as/for/US on a dare.

(Cambridge advanced learner's)

AnnaB
2. dare to do smth (о чём говорю я)
1. dare smb to do smth (о чём говорите Вы) :)

 мilitary

link 3.11.2005 15:30 
Dimking
я лишь попытался предельно (по сравнению с пространными словарными комментариями запосще(сте?)нными уважаемой АннойБ) упростить ответ на вопрос аскера..

 Dimking

link 3.11.2005 15:36 
Насчет Cambridge - бросайте в меня тапками - I dare you to ask him to dance - я НЕ ПОНИМАЮ ЭТОГО ПРЕДЛОЖЕНИЯ.
Нейтивы есть?

 Elvi

link 3.11.2005 15:41 
Dimking, это в значении "бросать вызов", делать что-либо на спор

 Mo

link 3.11.2005 15:46 
Dimking, я не нейтив, но почти...

I dare you to ask him to dance = А слабо тебе пригласить его на танец?

 Aiduza

link 3.11.2005 15:47 
"Спорим, ты его на танец не пригласишь?"
Если не дословно, а по смыслу :)

 V

link 3.11.2005 15:48 
I dare you to... = I defy you to (do it)
it's a challenge

 Dimking

link 3.11.2005 16:21 
Вроде дошло.
Просто меня значение "просить" жутко покоробило. Уже собрался менять профиль.

 tomps

link 8.02.2007 8:16 
1 [intransitive never progressive] if you dare to do something, you are not afraid to do it, even though it may be dangerous or shocking or may cause trouble for you:
Larry argue with the boss? He wouldn't dare.
I drove as fast as I dared.
dare to do something: Andrei Sakharov was one of the few people who dared to protest.
dare do something: Neither of the superpowers would have dared use nuclear weapons.
dare not do something: I daren't risk offending Audrey's parents.
hardly dare: I hardly dare to go into the room without first getting permission.
2 [transitive never passive] to try to persuade someone to prove that they are not afraid to do something that is dangerous or likely to cause trouble:
I dare you: Go on, phone the police. I dare you.
dare someone to do something: The older boys dared Jennings to go up on the roof.
dare hope/dream/believe [usually in negatives]
if you dare not hope, dream, or believe that something will happen or is true, you think it is very unlikely, but you would very much like it to happen:
I never dared dream that peace would come so soon.
The work was finished much sooner than he'd ever dared hope.
dare I say (it) SPOKEN FORMAL
used when you are saying something that you think other people may not like
don't you dare SPOKEN
used for telling someone not to do something, when you are warning them that you will be very angry if they do it:
'I'll tell Susan what you said about her.' 'Don't you dare!'
don't you dare do something: Don't you dare come near me!
hardly dare (to) breathe
to feel extremely nervous or worried about something that is happening or is going to happen
how dare you SPOKEN
used for telling someone how shocked and angry you are about something they have done or said:
'Were you ever involved with this woman?' 'How dare you! I'm a respectable married man.'
how dare you do something: How dare you go into my room without asking me!
I dare say BRITISH SPOKEN
used for saying that something is probably true, although you do not know for certain:
I dare say you're feeling tired after your journey.
Things have changed a good deal, I dare say.

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