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 wise crocodile

link 8.07.2016 7:17 
Subject: on account only gen.
Payments shall be made on account only.

Статья в договоре на оказание услуг. Моя догадка: Оплата производится только по факту выполненных работ. Мне категорически не нравится вариант "только в безналичной форме" или "только на счет". В юридике для этого есть специальные общепринятые пассажи. Да и предлог нужен другой.

Поскольку фраза не гуглится, думаю автор не был носителем.

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:20 
Если он был не носитель, почему вы уверены, что он должен был знать об общепринятых пассажах? Я бы подумал, что он имел в виду "на счет". А уточнить нельзя?

 wise crocodile

link 8.07.2016 7:28 
Нет, увы уточнить нельзя. Ну, судя по остальному тексту, пассажи он знает прилично, и предлоги не путает. "На счет" вообще не имеет смысла писать, тем более выносить в отдельную статью. Тогда to the bank account specified herein or to such other bank account the contractor may notify the customer from time to time

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:33 
В налоговой сфере есть такое:
Sometimes overlooked when calculating a persons tax due, payments on account are effectively the taxpayer paying tax in advance.
http://matchaccounting.co.uk/payments-on-account-explained/
Может, у вас подобное?

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:34 

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:35 
(т.е. наоборот, не по факту, а авансом).

 wise crocodile

link 8.07.2016 7:39 
То что по ссылке я давно видел. Чего там только нет! И "в счет причитающейся суммы" и "авансом." В моем договоре авансы не предусмотрены.

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:40 
Как давно (примерно)?

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:45 
Я нашел что-то похожее. Похоже на ваш контекст?
9.6. The Company may withhold, retain or set off from any payment due to the Supplier under this Contract:

(a) any amounts due from the Supplier to the Company; and

(b) any Losses which the Company claims in good faith that it has incurred or might in the future incur:

(i) in connection with any act or omission of the Supplier which the Company asserts constitutes a breach of the Contract; or

(ii) in connection with any act related to bankruptcy, reorganisation, receivership or insolvency occurring in relation to the Supplier.

9.7. The Company’s rights under clause 9.6 do not limit the Company’s right to recover those amounts in any other way. All payments to the Supplier are made on account only.
http://mainlineaccess.com.au/about-us/terms-and-conditions-2/

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:46 
Payment
15. Payments (both interim and final) as stated overleaf will, subject always to these terms and conditions, be made to the Subcontractor as and when the value of such Works under the terms of the Principal Contract is included in a certificate to Sound Ceilings Limited and Sound Ceilings Limited receives the monies due thereunder.
All interim payments shall be made on account only and these shall not be held in signify approval by Sound Ceilings Limited and/or the Main Contractor of the whole or any part of the Works executed not shall nay final payment prejudice any claim Sound Ceilings Limited may have in respect of any defects in the Works whenever such defects may appear.
http://www.sound-interiors.co.uk/terms.html

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:53 
Вот тут вроде объясняется:
Is an insolvent principal liable to pay me for work done prior to practical completion?

Under virtually all head contracts and most subcontracts, the principal has no liability to pay any part of the contract price at all unless and until the works under the contract are brought to practical completion which is when the principal has to pay the lump sum contract price (as adjusted). Prior to practical completion, all progress payments are payable “on account” only as a means of ensuring the contractor’s cash flow while works are being done. However, this does not mean progress payments are to be treated as instalments towards the contract price before practical completion.
http://www.hhg.com.au/announcements/how-to-ensure-the-contractor-gets-paid-for-work-done-in-construction-insolvency-circumstances

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:55 
Также см.:
However, at law, progress payments are interim payments on account only (most of the standard contracts reflect this). Where the contract is a lump sum or fixed price contract that sets out a scope of works and a price to be paid to the contractor for completing it, the principal does not become indebted at law to the contractor for any part of the contract price until the works are substantially completed. Substantial completion means completion of the contractor’s entire obligation except for minor defects and omissions. The contractor’s right to interim payments are just that – interim contractual rights and not final rights.

The implication of this is that when the contract is terminated before the works are substantially completed, the principal does not owe the contract price or any part of it to the contractor unless the contract expressly provides otherwise. (There are different provisions dealing with this in various of the standard contracts). In some cases, the principal may even have a case to recover progress payments already made before the contract was terminated.
http://www.hhg.com.au/blog/resolving-construction-contract-payment-disputes

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 7:59 
Т.е. возможно (но я не специалист), близки переводы "частичный платёж в счёт погашения обязательства", "в счёт причитающейся суммы", "в счёт причитающихся платежей" (с соответствующими модификациями или пояснениями, отражающими юридический статус этих платежей).

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 8:01 
Hallo? Hallo? You still there? We've been disconnected.

 wise crocodile

link 8.07.2016 8:28 
Да, именно "только в счет причитающихся сумм", то есть по факту выполненных работ.

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 8:32 
Почему "то есть"? Мне кажется, не факт.

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 8:32 
Но я не специалист. Давайте подождем, может, кто-нибудь подойдет, кто в этой сфере работает.

 trtrtr

link 8.07.2016 8:36 
Хотя, наверное, вы правы.

 toast2

link 8.07.2016 19:52 

 

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