Subject: дворец бракосочетаний Привет!!!!!!!Как бы вы перевели "дворец бракосочетаний" на аглицкий? Спасиб! |
A NIKAK!!!!!!! (Sm. v etoy zhe sviazi nedavnee na Forume burnoye no pritom sovershenno bessmysslennoye obsuzhdeniye "vora v zakone"). Nikak. Daete perevod i soprovozhdaete ego prostrannym "PrimPer" 'om. Sm., naprimer, kak shas na Zapade perevodiat nashu "vertical' vlasti" ili teh zhe "silovikov". Da ochen' prosto - "(the so called) vertical of power, i.e. executive chain of command". Nu i sootvetstvenno "siloviki, i.e. Russian vernacular for the military, law enforcement agencies, intelligence and Secret Service, etc" . I vot imenno v etom PrimPere kak raz i raskryvaetsia professionalism perevodchika, a) ponimayushchego, shto pod etim imenno ponimaetsia na yazyke originala, i b) kak BOLEE ILI MENEE PODOBNOYE YAVLENIYE oboznachaetsia na yazyke perevoda. Imenno v ETOM, a ne v tom, shtoby sochinit' shto-nit' pozaboristeye, shto na yazyke perevoda vse ravno ne to shto poniato, no dazhe vosprinyato ne budet - prosto potomu shto ONI TAK NE GOVORIAT. |
2V: полностью согласна, а что у них там совсем нет "Дворцов бракрсочетания"? |
Да напишите просто City Hall, хоть это и не подразумевает торжественность. Ну да ведь и по уму и венчаться-то надо в церкви (мечети, синагоге, whatever), а не во Дворце... |
Vy taki budete smeyat'sia, no, naprimer in the UK, EACH of the "brachuyushchiyesia" goes to their respective local town hall, depending on where they have their permanent place of abode (like, for instance if they live in London, the bride may go to the town hall of the Royal Borough of, say, Westminster, while the groom may go to the town hall of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea), they go to the Registrar (the local town hall official who comes as close as you can possibly get to being the equivalent of our "ZAGS"), he does the so-called "bans", i.e. puts up a notice on the official notice board so that all those who believe that they are aware of circumstancfes that might prevent the brachuyushchiyesia from being married (like one of them is already engaged, or the like), has the ability to make his objections known, then AFTER a certain period of time they actually get their Marriage Certificate, and THEN they make go to whatever church they want to go to, to celebrate their marriage. VYVOD: - the closest you can get to it is, as Aiduza proposed, smth like City Hall, Town Hall or the like. You can add "Regitrar" if you want (he registers marriages, deaths, births, etc). Pri vsem pri tom, kak ya uzhe govoril, eto sobstvenno NE PEREVOD TERMINA KAK TAKOVOGO, i NE pytaites' eto perevesti, t.k. whatever term you make come up with ("Palace of Marriages", presumably??!!) will not make any sense at all anyways. Just add a PrimPer. |
Pogoriachilsia ya, sorry. "Westminster" of course, is City of Westminster, not "Royal Borough". A vot "Ken & Chelsea" - taki da, Royal Borough. (V Westminster'e vsia zemlia prinadlezhit ne korone, a the Duke of Westminster.) |
The source: "We don’t need no piece of paper (c) Joni Mitchell "Blue" (one of my favourite CD's) |
Ili eshe liubimoe amerikanskoye vyrazheniye "go fight City Hall" - kstati otlichnyi variant dlia perevoda nashego "protiv loma net priema" :-)) |
One other alternative would be to say, simply, the register office. Even though R.O is closer to our ZAGS than to Dvorets brakosochetaniy. (see what the Church of England recently said Charles should do if he wants to marry Camilla - "Marry in the register office, followed by prayers of dedication in church") |
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