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 Винни

link 19.09.2012 15:54 
Subject: little room med.
Доброго времени суток, уважаемые переводчики!

Попалась такая фраза в презентации про паллиативную помощь детям "After death came to Little Room in local Hospice"
Не совсем уверена, что такое little room.
Логика, конечно, подсказывает, что морг, но хотелось бы уточнить.
Может, кто-то сталкивался?

Заранее благодарю за помощь!

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 16:20 
Может быть, речь все-таки идет о палате, в которой лежал умерший больной? Тогда это маленькая палата.

 dimock

link 19.09.2012 16:34 
После того как смерть постучалась в Маленькую Комнату в местном Хосписе

Это же текст для детей, Вы сами написали - вот и вставили это прилагательное. По-моему, никакой другой термин здесь не подразумевается.

 nephew

link 19.09.2012 16:37 
контекста мало - и нигде не сказано, что презентация для детей, но смерть в морг, как правило, не приходит.

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 16:40 
Когда смерть пришла в небольшую палату местного хосписа

 Aiduza

link 19.09.2012 17:14 
возможно "...в детскую палату...". обратите внимание, что в Little Room оба слова написаны с прописной буквы.

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 17:21 
А что, вполне вероятно. Салют, Aiduza!

 Винни

link 19.09.2012 18:50 
Да, прошу прощения, действительно мало контекста дала. Презентация для медицинских работников о местах, где проходят последние дни жизни пациента (дом/хоспис/больница). Вот текст всего слайда, тезисное описание одного из случаев:
Place of death
15 year old – sarcoma of pelvis
At home waiting for palliative radiotherapy to work
Significant issues with pain control
Suddenly wheezy and short of breath over 2 hours
Deteriorated and died at home.
After death came to Little Room in local Hospice.

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 18:52 
Ничего не понимаю: умер (или умерла) дома, а смерть в хоспис пришла.

 nephew

link 19.09.2012 18:56 
сам пришел. после смерти.

 Винни

link 19.09.2012 19:09 
После смерти поступил в какое-то (но какое?) отделение местного хосписа.

 nephew

link 19.09.2012 19:11 
вы уже все слайды перевели? больше нигде не упоминается?

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 19:17 
Может, все-таки действительно морг? Пишут как будто нарочно так, чтоб никто не догадался…

 Винни

link 19.09.2012 19:49 
igisheva, согласна :) видимо, это внутренний эвфемизм.
nephew, единственный раз, к сожалению.

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 19:51 
Тогда отбрасываем все литературные ухищрения и пишем: после смерти был(а) доставлен(а) в морг местного хосписа.

 Винни

link 19.09.2012 19:58 
пожалуй, так и сделаю. спасибо!

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 20:07 
Да завсегда пожалуйста. Только на будущее не забывайте в таких мутных случаях побольше контекста давать: его лишку никогда не бывает, а вот недостаточно – очень даже.

 Rengo

link 19.09.2012 20:09 

комната прощания

In the previous year the family had taken respite breaks at Helen House but now they came to lie Courtney's body in the bed in the hospice's "little room". Resting him under his own duvet and putting his favourite toys alongside him, they moved into a family room a few doors away, and so began a unique week of saying goodbye: cradling their son's tiny body, weeping on him, smelling his hair, even, in the case of their 11-year-old daughter Elisha, getting into bed with him "to keep him warm". British television has rarely, if ever, captured so startling, uncomfortable and yet, strangely, reassuring, an encounter with the great stranger we call death.

"I remember sitting outside the door of the room early one morning listening to Elisha singing to Courtney," recalls Leyton. "She'd come down to his room early and crawled under the duvet with him to sing.

"She'd always sung to him when he was alive, it used to calm him down, and now that he was dead it seemed natural to her to do the same."

If modern western culture attempts to banish the dead from the public space — expelling the body to morgue or chapel of rest even as the final breath still hangs in the air — the sight of a dead child being cherished for several days by grieving parents would border on the surreal . . . were it not so moving. Knowing that Courtney's condition gave him only a short time to live, the family had arranged with Helen House to move in for the days after his death: it's part of its distinctive approach that families take the body of their child to the little room and in the process rediscover a long-forgotten but profound way of saying goodbye in the midst of heartbreaking grief.

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..> Little Courtney Scarlett will never know he became a television star. A year ago, barely 14 months old, Courtney died in the arms of his mother Louise, his battling spirit finally overcome by severe heart and lung complications in the frail body he was born with.
For the duration of his short life, his parents Leyton and Louise, who gave up work to become his full-time carers, worked round-the-clock to administer the complex drug regime which kept his heart pumping and their hopes alive. But if the story of his life is moving, as recounted in a unique BBC documentary series beginning this week, the story of his death may mark a television first — both shocking and powerful in what it represents.

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..> Hours after Courtney died, in December last year, his parents carried him into their car and took him on the 45-minute drive from their home in Aylesbury to Helen House, on the outskirts of Oxford, the country's first hospice for young people with "life-shortening" conditions.
In the previous year the family had taken respite breaks at Helen House but now they came to lie Courtney's body in the bed in the hospice's "little room". Resting him under his own duvet and putting his favourite toys alongside him, they moved into a family room a few doors away, and so began a unique week of saying goodbye: cradling their son's tiny body, weeping on him, smelling his hair, even, in the case of their 11-year-old daughter Elisha, getting into bed with him "to keep him warm". British television has rarely, if ever, captured so startling, uncomfortable and yet, strangely, reassuring, an encounter with the great stranger we call death.

"I remember sitting outside the door of the room early one morning listening to Elisha singing to Courtney," recalls Leyton. "She'd come down to his room early and crawled under the duvet with him to sing.

"She'd always sung to him when he was alive, it used to calm him down, and now that he was dead it seemed natural to her to do the same."

If modern western culture attempts to banish the dead from the public space — expelling the body to morgue or chapel of rest even as the final breath still hangs in the air — the sight of a dead child being cherished for several days by grieving parents would border on the surreal . . . were it not so moving. Knowing that Courtney's condition gave him only a short time to live, the family had arranged with Helen House to move in for the days after his death: it's part of its distinctive approach that families take the body of their child to the little room and in the process rediscover a long-forgotten but profound way of saying goodbye in the midst of heartbreaking grief.

In the previous year the family had taken respite breaks at Helen House but now they came to lie Courtney's body in the bed in the hospice's "little room". Resting him under his own duvet and putting his favourite toys alongside him, they moved into a family room a few doors away, and so began a unique week of saying goodbye: cradling their son's tiny body, weeping on him, smelling his hair, even, in the case of their 11-year-old daughter Elisha, getting into bed with him "to keep him warm". British television has rarely, if ever, captured so startling, uncomfortable and yet, strangely, reassuring, an encounter with the great stranger we call death.

"I remember sitting outside the door of the room early one morning listening to Elisha singing to Courtney," recalls Leyton. "She'd come down to his room early and crawled under the duvet with him to sing.

"She'd always sung to him when he was alive, it used to calm him down, and now that he was dead it seemed natural to her to do the same."

If modern western culture attempts to banish the dead from the public space — expelling the body to morgue or chapel of rest even as the final breath still hangs in the air — the sight of a dead child being cherished for several days by grieving parents would border on the surreal . . . were it not so moving. Knowing that Courtney's condition gave him only a short time to live, the family had arranged with Helen House to move in for the days after his death: it's part of its distinctive approach that families take the body of their child to the little room and in the process rediscover a long-forgotten but profound way of saying goodbye in the midst of heartbreaking grief.

"We changed his clothes, bathed him and put him to bed," explains Louise, matter of factly. "We knew he wasn't going to wake up but we'd never seen him as peaceful as this and we'd hardly ever been able to hold him without tubes coming out of him, without equipment trailing from him."

And the experience offered a gift they will treasure for the rest of their lives: "For his sister," says Louise, "death is no longer a scary thing. She felt very happy to hold Courtney, to sit there with him on her lap even though she knew he was not awake."

Strange as it might seem, Louise adds, "It was a lovely time."

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 20:16 
Ну тады в моей фразе нужно заменить морг на «комнату прощания».

 nephew

link 19.09.2012 20:17 
вот только собралась предлагать "комнату прощания", а Rengo уже

 igisheva

link 19.09.2012 20:18 
А я еще нарыла эквивалент «траурная комната».

 Винни

link 19.09.2012 20:29 
Ringo, потрясающе! Смысл обретен. Всем еще раз большое спасибо за помощь!

 

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