to talk till all is blue

[ForzaMU]

Помогите c правильным переводом
Правильно ли сказать -to talk till all is blue - договориться до хрипоты?
хотя для данного словосочетания есть своя идиома - to talk oneself hoarse

[Alexander Orlov]

до посинения

[Daryn]

talk until one is blue in the face

Fig. to talk until one is exhausted. I talked until I was blue in the face, but I couldn't change her mind. She had to talk until she was blue in the face in order to convince him.

McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

[Peter Cantrop]

?
до умопомрачения
как сейчас говорят: до выноса мозга

[ForzaMU]

спасибо!