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 owant

link 6.01.2011 14:27 
Subject: born secret (born classified)
Здравствуйте.

Интересует перевод любого из этих терминов (синонимы). Феномен связан с охраной закрытой информации в США и наказанием за разглашение. Контекст: All such data were born secret and belonged to the government. If you related a dream about nuclear weapons, you were breaking the law.

Насколько оправдан перевод "совершенно секретно"?

Буду благодарен за любые отзывы

 inc

link 6.01.2011 14:54 
только секретно.. "совершенно" требует "top" ... слово born означает изначально... то есть, с самого момента получения данных... уже было секретно

 Yakov

link 6.01.2011 14:56 
Это скорее относится не к степени секретности, а к способу объявления секретными целых категорий информации еще до их появления.

"Born secret" and "born classified" are both terms which refer to a policy of information being classified from the moment of its inception, usually regardless of where it was being created, usually in reference to specific laws in the United States that are related to information that describes the operation of nuclear weapons.

It has been extensively used in reference to a clause in the Atomic Energy Act of 1946, which specified that all information about nuclear weapons and nuclear energy was to be considered "Restricted Data" (RD) until it had been officially declassified. In the 1954 revision of the Act, the United States Atomic Energy Commission was given the power to declassify entire categories of information. The "born secret" policy was created under the assumption that nuclear information could be so important to national security that it would need classification before it could be formally evaluated. The wording of the 1954 act specified that:

All data concerning (1) design, manufacture, or utilization of atomic weapons; (2) the production of special nuclear material; or (3) the use of special nuclear material in the production of energy, but shall not include data declassified or removed from the Restricted Data category pursuant to section 2162 of this title.[1]

 inc

link 6.01.2011 15:11 
Yakov +

Makes sense to me.

But please note it seems to be a policy to have something automatically be assumed to be at the "Secret" level of classification. "Born Secret" is not a level of classification itself, that I am aware of.

 Kirsha

link 6.01.2011 15:18 
априори, по определению, заведомо

 sledopyt

link 6.01.2011 15:35 
consider options:
документы/информация/данные, засекреченные с момента создания/появления
изначально засекреченные/секретные документы/информация

 owant

link 6.01.2011 17:59 
Спасибо всем. К вариантам Следопыта добавить нечего...

 

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