Товарно-транспортная накладная и товарная накладная

[Dimking]

Помогите грамотно развести товарно-транспортную накладную (форма Т-1) и товарную накладную (форма ТОРГ-12)
Спс.

[Kovalskaya30]

Дима, 0 часов и 10 минут на англ это - 12:10 am??

[whiteweber]

я точно знаю, что ТТН = waybill, так как своими глазами видела оригинальные документы при импорте.

К сожалению, оригиналов ТН на англ. не встречала, воспользовалась переводом мультитрана =).

НО эти документы действительно различаются, в одном из них указывается стоимость товара (ТН), в другом- нет (TTH, она вообще больше на упаковочный смахивает), поэтому, я уверена, что и анг. термины должны отличаться.

[Dimking]

Kovalskaya30

да

whiteweber

Пока сделаем BL и consignment note, а дальше посмотрим :)

[Kovalskaya30]

спасибо

[whiteweber]

о! :) я сама consignment note выбрала , а у вас похоже еще и морская ТТН, что коносаментом (=BL) зовется :))

Удачи!

[Enote]

ТОРГ-12 я бы назвал invoice
вот тут лежит накладная по форме ТОРГ-12 http://sklad-zakonov.narod.ru/dogovor/pprf132_1.htm#ТОРГ_12Ф

[tumanov]

И даже морская накладная НИ В КОЕМ СЛУЧАЕ НЕ ЕСТЬ КОНОСАМЕНТ, а только лишь sea waybill.

[tumanov]

..Non-negotiable sea waybills

Processing of bills of lading is quite time consuming and can result in the consignee receiving them only after the goods have arrived at the port of destination. The non-negotiable sea waybill prevents this delay as (similar to air waybills) the goods can be delivered to the consignee without handing over the waybill.

[tumanov]

..Non-negotiable sea waybills

Processing of bills of lading is quite time consuming and can result in the consignee receiving them only after the goods have arrived at the port of destination. The non-negotiable sea waybill prevents this delay as (similar to air waybills) the goods can be delivered to the consignee without handing over the waybill.

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sea waybill
Definition

Shipping document that is only a receipt of cargo taken 'on board' a vessel and which, unlike a bill of lading, is not a document of title.

[Dimking]

Спасибо, коллеги!

у меня тут перевозка автотранспортом, а по invoic'у тут у меня клиент платит перевозчику

[tumanov]

Предлагаю: delivery docket vs. waybill

[Dimking]

Спасибо, но не буду - боюсь, не поймут :-)

[tumanov]

Почему же?
Посмотрят в словаре и поймут.
Слова то английские, не китайские :0)

[tumanov]

вот и докУмент:
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Billing

Invoices are currently sent by post in the construction industry. Some companies may send invoices by email, but this does not satisfy Revenue Commissioner requirements, and there may be VAT implications for companies sending and accepting invoices sent by email.

Stage Owner Activity Explanation

1 Supplier Send invoice Invoices are generally sent out by post by suppliers.
2 Head office Record invoice Each invoice is recorded by the contractor on their back office system.
3 Head office Delivery received? The first check that is done is to make sure that deliveries listed on the invoice actually took place. If they don’t exist on the system, head office may check with site to see if the delivery was actually received.
4 Head office Products match delivery? The second check is to make sure that the items on the delivery docket were received. Again if the detail is not on the contractor’s back office system, the delivery details have to be checked with the site.
5 Site Confirm receipt The site may be asked to sign off on invoices to confirm that items were delivered as specified.

If the site cannot confirm the details, head office may have to request copies of the delivery dockets from the supplier.
6 Head office Prices match? If the pricing on the invoice matches the pricing recorded on the order by the contractor, the invoice can then be passed for approval.

If the pricing does not match, this has to be queried with the supplier.
7 Supplier Credit request If there is a price discrepancy, this may necessitate a credit being raised by the supplier.
8 Head office Approve invoice for payment Once all of the checks have passed successfully, and credits raised (if any by the supplier), the invoice can be approved for payment.

Issues with this process

There are several ways in which the process can break down:

1. Missing delivery dockets
Many of the issues raised earlier in the supply chain come to a head when an invoice is received. A key issue is missing delivery dockets against which to reconcile the invoice. This involves administration effort requesting copies of delivery dockets and then matching them to invoices.
2. Lack of visibility.
When an invoice arrives in, it can be the first indication head office have of an issue in the supply chain. For example an incorrect product may have been supplied that is now incorporated into the framework of a building and cannot be rectified without significant cost.
3. Cost overruns.
Site may have ordered products which are more expensive than planned, with a knock-on impact on the cost of the project.

[tumanov]

Или вот еще: http://www.data-store.ie/html/case_study_3.htm

[Dimking]

Спасибо, но все равно не буду :)))

[tumanov]

ок!
каждый,пардон, это самое, как он хочить\\\

или согласно афоризьме "каждый переводит в одиночку"
с чем, по большому счету, я безусловно согласен.

[Dimking]

та нее.. тут дело в другом.. просто неохота в 14 страницах исправлять... :)

[tumanov]

Как я вас понимаю! (с) :0))))