undergraduate college

[ирланчик]

Пожалуйста, помогите перевести:
undergraduate college training and graduate shcool training
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after four years of undergraduate college training and graduate shcool training

Заранее спасибо

[kath]

Undergraduate is your standard 4 years of university/college resulting in Bachelors degree

Graduate school is ASPIRANTURA in Russian, when you get your Masters Degree.

Basically what this person is saying is "after a lot of education"

[серёга]

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graduate school - это магистратура, а не аспирантура

[kath]

i stand corrected. you know russian system better.

i just know that graduate school is the one that leaves you with a masters degree, unless you're in england and you get an entire range of various graduate degrees, like m-phils, d-phils, etc. in addition to m.a.

[Annaa]

ИМХО, тут вопрос о несовпадении нашей и британской системы плюс различия в British и American English. Насколько я понимаю, graduate здесь, это то, что соответствует нашей магистратуре, а дальше идет post-graduate - аналог нашей аспирантуре, после которой получают PhD, то есть это ниши кандидаты, и всегдп непонятно, что делать с нашими докторами наук. Американцы же, вроде graduate используют вместо post-graduate. Или не так?

[kath]

In America graduate school can encompass any and all education levels that follow undergraduate, ie, the initial 4 years, bachelors. However, when someone says "I'm in graduate school" it is understood that the person is working on his/her Masters or MBA or similar. When someone is working on a PhD (doctorate) they usuall say that. Ie, I'm doing a PhD, I'm working on my doctorate, I'm writing a thesis, etc.

In your case, above, I would safely bet that the person is talking about a BA and Masters. Not PhD.

[kath]

Sorry, my head was elsewhere - post-graduate, of course, is the PhD/doctorate.

However, I stand by my last sentence.

Again, my apologies. My head is a bit fried today.