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 inches

link 10.11.2006 6:43 
Subject: блокировка карты fin.
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блокировка карты
правильно будет сказать "disabling a card"?

Выражение встречается в следующем контексте:

После блокировки карты информация на ней сохраняется в течение 35 дней.

Заранее спасибо

 d.

link 10.11.2006 6:59 
after the card is blocked...

 yfnf

link 10.11.2006 7:14 
The card data is stored within 35 days in the event of being blocked.

 watchkeeper

link 10.11.2006 8:03 
as long as you understand what blocking a card means in english:
Credit and Debit Card Blocking

Have you ever been told you were over your credit card limit, or had your debit card declined, even though you knew you had available credit, or money in your bank account? If this happened shortly after you stayed in a hotel or rented a car, the problem could have been card "blocking."

What's Blocking?
When you use a credit or debit card to check into a hotel or rent a car, the clerk usually contacts the company that issued your card to give an estimated total. If the transaction is approved, your available credit (credit card) or the balance in your bank account (debit card) is reduced by this amount. That's a "block." Some companies also call this placing a "hold" on those amounts.

Here's how it works: Suppose you use a credit or debit card when you check into a $100-a-night hotel for five nights. At least $500 would likely be blocked. In addition, hotels and rental car companies often add anticipated charges for "incidentals" like food, beverages, or gasoline to the blocked amount. These incidental amounts can vary widely among merchants.

If you pay your bill with the same card you used when you checked in, the final charge on your credit card, or final amount on your debit card, probably will replace the block in a day or two. However, if you pay your bill with a different card, or with cash or a check, the company that issued the card you used at check-in might hold the block for up to 15 days after you've checked out. That's because they weren't notified of the final payment and didn't know you paid another way.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/credbloc.htm

 Nina79

link 10.11.2006 8:06 
it is definetely blocked

 watchkeeper

link 10.11.2006 8:29 

ну вот скажем здесь на сайте СБЕРЕГАТЕЛЬНого БАНКа РОССИЙСКОЙ ФЕДЕРАЦИИ описывается блокировка карты что совершенно не соответствует определению card blocking c caйта Federal Trade Commission приведенного выше:

Блокировка карты (клавиша 3): бесплатная услуга, позволяющая блокировать карту.

Предоставляется возможность выбора в режиме тонового набора одной из следующих причин блокировки карты:

"потеря" (клавиша 1),
"кража" (клавиша 2),
"карта оставлена в банкомате" (клавиша 3),
"иная причина" (клавиша 4).
http://www.sbrf.ru/ruswin/tar/pmcard.htm

I think here they talk about a credit card being frozen or locked, but not blocked.

 Nina79

link 10.11.2006 8:36 

потеря" = LOST
"кража" = STOLEN
"карта оставлена в банкомате" = CANNOT BE RETRIEVED FROM ATM/WAS LEFT AT ATM
"иная причина" = OTHER REASON

AND THEY WILL BLOCK YOUR CARD ONCE YOU TELL THEM TO (SO THAT NO ONE CAN USE IT)

 watchkeeper

link 10.11.2006 8:55 
thank you very much for your translation; however, it was not needed - i understand russian very well. there was no need to yell at me either.
what i am trying to say here is that card blocking in english is not the same thing as блокировкa карты in russian. if you don't agree with my opinion, you are more than welcome to provide me with references supporting your position, but if i am to choose between the opinion of Federal Trade Commission and a word of a half literate american teenager... you get my drift.
sorry, girlfriend: Socrates is my friend, but a much greater friend is the truth.

 Nina79

link 10.11.2006 9:07 
watchkeeper
i would start watching you tounge and not the hours

and if you are going to trust FTC, you had better use block and not lock. could be hold, depending on your sitch.
when talking about cards, we do not say locked or frozen
your account is frozen or a hold has been put on it but your card is BLOCKED and you cannot use it

and i wasnt yelling. i left the capslock on accidentally and was too lazy to go write it all again in small letters

 watchkeeper

link 10.11.2006 9:17 
I will stick to my guns until i see some proof, and i would better start watching the hours – it’s 2 am in my world and it means time to hit the sack. night-night.

 кот-в-сопагах

link 10.11.2006 9:45 
My credit card is being rejectedThere are 3 possible reasons why your credit card is being declined: ... If you believe that your card has been blocked because of suspected fraud, ...
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Credit Card Loss - AirPlus GermanyShould an AirPlus card that has been reported lost or stolen be recovered, please do not start using it again as it will have been blocked worldwide. ...
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The BlackBoxCamera Company Limited - Frequently Asked QuestionsIf you have a problem please contact your credit card issuer first. The most common reason for an order to be declined is that the card has been blocked ...
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TFCU - Internet Security Tips - What to do if Your Identity is StolenYour card has been blocked and cannot be used. Your account balance will be automatically transferred to your new credit card account. ...
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 кот-в-сопагах

link 10.11.2006 9:56 
http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q="credit+card+has+been+blocked"&lr=

 lоpuh

link 10.11.2006 10:10 
че-то я не понимаю, о чем спорим-то?

карта заблокирована -это значит, что по ней прекращены операции. Может быть заблокирована как самим банком (в случае подозрения на мошенничество, например), так и по инициативе (по звонку/заявлению) владельца - в случае потери, кражи и т.д.

watchkeeper
тот процесс, который Вы описываете - это "блокировка" определенной суммы на счете - в этом случае ТОЛЬКО эта сумма недоступна владельцу до тех пор, пока не будет произведен расчет для которого сумма была заблокирована. Цель такой блокировки - "резервирование" определенной суммы для оплаты возможных будущих чарджей - например, в гостинице, авто напрокат и тд. Как только чардж взимается, остатки заблокированной суммы возвращаются в свободное пользование. Это нормальный процесс - никакого отношения к заблокированию карты не имеет.

 watchkeeper

link 12.11.2006 23:07 
anyway, i’ve phoned my visa, master card my bank. With minor variations, they all said:
when a credit card is either lost, stolen, pin number is compromised, or fraud/identify theft is suspected, the card is deactivated/cancelled and a replacement card with a new number is issued. having said that, i do understand that credit card issuers in russia my operate differently.
my apologies to Nina79 for “ a half literate american teenager” – the fumes from burning the proverbial midnight oil have clouded my judgement. :-)))

 lоpuh

link 13.11.2006 7:36 
watchekeeper, аннулирование(cancellation) карты - это всегда необратимый процесс, и он не всегда Вам нужен. Если Вы в магазине полезли в кошелек и не обнаружили в нем свою карту, Вы не будете звонить в банк с просьбой немедленно ее аннулировать, можно ее просто заблокировать, чтобы никто не смог воспользоваться деньгами на Вашем картсчете, а карточка еще может запросто найтись дома и тогда счет Вам разблокируют. Опять же, если Вы "перебрали" Ваш лимит на картсчете, банк заблокирует Вашу карту до тех пор, пока Вы не внесете необходимой суммы на картсчет, но не рассчитывайте, что он немедленно аннулирует Вашу карту.

Блокирование - это временное (или промежуточное) действие, аннулирование карты и выпуск новой - это совсем другая песня.
Вы конечно можете упорствовать и дальше, не признавая очевидное, если Вам это нравится, но право же, это смешно.

 

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