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 chan

link 14.09.2004 12:27 
Subject: Indian summer
Подскажите этимологию Indian summer

 Slava

link 14.09.2004 12:33 
Ну, это все легко ищется:
http://tafkac.org/language/etymology/indian_summer.html

 СHAN

link 14.09.2004 12:37 
Спасибо, Slava, но, к сожалению, с английским у меня туго.
Просто узнал, что бабье лето так по-английски называется. А вот почему - никто мне сказать не может :-(

 notico

link 14.09.2004 12:38 
Origin of the term 'Indian Summer'

Now we come to the origin of the term itself, "Indian Summer."

Over the years, there has been a considerable amount of interest given to this topic in literature. Probably one of the most intensive studies occurred way back around the turn of the century. A paper by Albert Matthews, written in 1902, made an exhaustive study of the historical usage of the term.

Evidently, the credit for the first usage of the term was mistakenly given to a man by the name of Major Ebenezer Denny, who used it in his "Journal", dated October 13th, 1794. The journal was kept at a town called Le Boeuf, which was near the present day city of Erie, Pennsylvania.

Matthews however, uncovered an earlier usage of the term in 1778 by a Frenchman called St. John de Crevecoeur. It appeared in a letter Crevecoeur wrote dated "German-flats, 17 Janvier, 1778." The following is a translation of a portion of the letter:

"Sometimes the rain is followed by an interval of calm and warmth which is called the Indian Summer; its characteristics are a tranquil atmosphere and general smokiness. Up to this epoch the approaches of winter are doubtful; it arrives about the middle of November, although snows and brief freezes often occur long before that date."

Since the writer says, "it is called the Indian Summer", obviously one could argue that term would have had to been used before him and became popular, but by whom, an earlier explorer or possibly an Indian tribe?

Now, after looking at all of this, the question you might ask yourself is, "Does the term 'Indian Summer' really have anything to do with Indians?" Again, there is host of possibilities, read on..

One explanation of the term "Indian Summer" might be that the early native Indians chose that time of year as their hunting season. This seems reasonable seeing the fall months are still considered the main hunting season for several animals.

Also, the mild and hazy weather encourages the animals out, and the haziness of the air gives the hunter the advantage to sneak up on its prey without being detected. Taking this idea one step further, Indians at that time were known to have set fires to prairie grass, underbrush and woods to accentuate the hazy, smokey conditions. But Albert Matthews pointed out that the Indians also did this at other times of the year.

Other possibilities include; the Indians made use of the dry, hazy weather to attack the whites before the hard winter set in; that this was the season of the Indian harvest; or, that the predominant southwest winds that accompanied the Indian Summer period were regarded by the Indians as a favor or "blessing" from a "god" in the desert Southwest.

Another idea, of a more prejudicial origin, was that possibly the earliest English immigrants equated Indian Summer to "fools" Summer, given the reliability of the resulting weather.

Finally, another hypothesis, not at all in the American Indian "camp" of theories, was put forward by an author by the name of H. E. Ware, who noted that ships at that time traversing the Indian Ocean loaded up their cargo the most during the "Indian Summer", or fair weather season. Several ships actually had an "I.S." on their hull at the load level thought safe during the Indian Summer.

In any event, there are several theories or possibilities of the explanation and origin of the term "Indian Summer", yet no one theory has actually been proven. Given the fact it has been centuries since the term first appeared, it will probably rest with its originators.

All in all, even with the variety of opinions on this weather (or seasonal) phenomenon, the most popular belief of Indian Summer is as follows: It is an abnormally warm and dry weather period, varying in length, that comes in the autumn time of the year, usually in October or November, and only after the first killing frost or freeze. There may be several occurrences of Indian Summer in a fall season or none at all.

Since Indian Summers are fairly common, it would be interesting to find out if there is any correlation between the years that had no Indian Summer (in a particular area) and the type of winter weather that followed. Oh well, possibly another time and another article but enjoy the Indian Summer while its around, because one thing is for certain, it never lasts!

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/basics/indian-summer.htm

 СHAN

link 14.09.2004 12:44 
Notico, спасибо, но я ничего не понимаю, к сожалению.
Обещаю выучить английский, только ответьте сейчас по-русски:0)
Пожалуйста...

 notico

link 14.09.2004 12:55 
есть несколько гипотез, но толком никто ничего сказать не может. Одни говорят, что погода в этот период способствовала хорошей охоте, другие думают, что в это время индейцы нападали на бледнолицых ну и еще парочка версий....лучше учите английский, а то переводить все некогда сейчас...сорри..:))

 chan

link 14.09.2004 13:01 
а, так это ИНДЕЙСКОЕ, а не ИНДИЙСКОЕ ЛЕТО. Спасибо, спасибо, спасибо!!!

 nicolayoguy

link 14.09.2004 13:08 
индейское

 nicolayoguy

link 14.09.2004 13:10 
+ из версий нотико
есть вариант, что в это время кораблям, ходивщим в Индийском океане, сопутствовала наиболее благоприятная погода

 notico

link 14.09.2004 13:12 
короче, как кому больше нравится...:)

 

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