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 Nina2009

link 17.03.2017 12:36 
Subject: британские ученые доказали gen.
простите, если уже осбуждалось, что-то я запятовала...
какой есть эквивалент "британские ученые доказали", ведь они так не говорят и юмор не ясен обычно носителям языка. спасибо

 Cactu$

link 17.03.2017 12:48 

 trtrtr

link 17.03.2017 13:08 
Про Ig Nobel Awards:
More than that, though, it might bring an end to the quirky, sometimes daft, sometimes weirdly inspired research that brings harmless entertainment and occasional enlightenment to armchair boffins and science nerds everywhere.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/6223831/Pointless-research-top-10-Ig-Nobel-award-winners-for-silly-science.html

 trtrtr

link 17.03.2017 13:09 

 crockodile

link 17.03.2017 14:01 
island nerdies proved

 SirReal moderator

link 17.03.2017 22:13 
о, да в том обсуждении даже я поучаствовал :) не говоря уже о Sjoe!

эквивалента мему как такового нет, но, on second thought, все немного проще, чем кажется сначала. сейчас я бы написал просто scientists. недосказанность наше всё :)

 SirReal moderator

link 17.03.2017 22:13 
намек на то, что для масс все ученые -- британские.

 интровверт

link 17.03.2017 22:40 
+1, или scientifically proven

 johnstephenson

link 17.03.2017 23:22 
What an outrageous slur on British science! Needless to say, there's no English-language equivalent with 'British' in the title, at least in the UK!

1) 'Factoid' can mean a true (but totally useless) piece of information, eg "Did you know that Napoleon Bonaparte suffered from ingrown toenails?" However, as well as meaning this, it can mean a fake 'fact' which has become accepted as true.

2) You could prefix the information with 'It's a little-known fact that ......'/'Not many people know that ......', or put 'Not many people know that.' after it. The latter is a well-known quote by UK actor Michael Caine
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0F3kY3uxU
and signals to the reader that the information they've just been given, although true, is of no use to anyone. This line is well-known in the UK but may not be as well-known in the US.

3) If you want to say that the 'fact' is untrue and that the 'scientists' aren't proper scientists, you'll have to invent sth more forceful, such as:
* 'British so-called "scientists" claim that ....'
* '(Phoney (UK)/Phony (US)) British scientists claim that ....'
* 'British pretend scientists claim that ....'

 SirReal moderator

link 17.03.2017 23:58 
jokes like this aren't meant to be slurs on Brits per se -- only on scientists who sit in their ivory towers and waste taxpayers' hard-earned money by researching meaningless phenomena. (not a view I subscribe to, but just sayin'.)

in most cases, jokes that start like that would work with almost any intro whatsoever. "Not many people know that" would certainly suffice.

for example, "(British) scientists have recently made a stunning discovery. it turns out that bicycles are the fastest and most foolproof way for cars to collide with humans."

 johnstephenson

link 18.03.2017 0:26 
I meant to put a :-) after the first sentence to make it clear that it wasn't a serious comment, but pressed 'Сохранить ответ' before I'd finished the draft. Ivory towers -- yes, too much time on their hands and too much money from the Research Council!

BBC DJ Steve Wright has a regular, humorous slot called 'Factoids' in his radio programme. Here are some of them: http://goo.gl/ELLL8L

I wonder how much they cost to research...?

 интровверт

link 18.03.2017 1:10 
in russian, британские ученые has never been about "british" as such. just a saying which stuck.

 johnstephenson

link 18.03.2017 1:15 
I wonder where it came from. Did it follow a story such as one of the 'factoids' above?

 

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