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 Alex16

link 12.07.2016 16:07 
Subject: at; per Lord Neuberger of Abbotsbury PSC law
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Arnold v Britton [2015] AC 1619 at [15] per Lord Neuberger of Abbotsbury PSC (Exhibit CL-[•]).

Хотелось бы знать, что такое "at", также Abbotsbury PSC ...

Удалось найти Abbotsbury - это такая деревня.

Хорошо - в соответствии с комментариями (с учетом мнения?) Лорда Нойбергера Абботсбэри

Что тогда такое PSC?

Спасибо за разъяснения.

 johnstephenson

link 12.07.2016 17:00 
'per [15]' = 'at paragraph 15'?
'per' = 'as per' = 'as said by'???

I'm not a legal expert, though.

Lords (peers) in the UK always take a title in the form 'Lord/Lady [their surname] of [a geographical location, usually somewhere in the UK]'. Often it's a place they're familiar with, such as their birthplace, or some other location they're fond of or have lived in.

It dates back to the days when Lords lived in large houses in the countryside and owned a lot of the surrounding land/villages, and the area of land they owned was incorporated into their title. The tradition has continued, even though most peers nowadays don't own large areas of land.

Also the 'of ......' is a way of distinguishing between lords/ladies with the same surname. So you'd have (for example) Lord Taylor of Abercrombie, but also Lord Taylor of Hastings. So that's their full title, but their shortened title would be just Lord Taylor. Ridiculous but true!

Lord Neuberger is a judge and 'PSC' after his name = 'President of the Supreme Court' (of the UK).

 Alex16

link 12.07.2016 17:31 
Thank you for the clarification, you are absolutely correct.

 toast2

link 12.07.2016 20:18 
алекс, "at [15] per Lord Neuberger " - означает "в пункте 15 решения, вынесенного лордом ньюбергером"

(англичане произносят его фамилию "ньюбергер", хотя по уму он, конечно, исходно "нойбергер" :)

все остальное джон объяснил весьма подробно и исчерпывающе

 trtrtr

link 13.07.2016 6:51 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Neuberger,_Baron_Neuberger_of_Abbotsbury

 trtrtr

link 13.07.2016 6:55 
Alex16 didn't do his homework :-)

Lord Neuberger of Abbotsbury, the president of the Supreme Court, said he sometimes ignores files and reads just “the parties’ written cases” and rulings by lower courts.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11028942/Lord-Neuberger-Britains-most-senior-judge-admits-he-doesnt-read-all-papers-in-a-case.html

 johnstephenson

link 13.07.2016 21:28 
trtrtr: In case you're interested, you can usually make https (secure) URLs which you post in MT turn into links by removing the 's' in 'https'. The link will then take people to the website, which will automatically re-insert the 's'.

 Alex16

link 14.07.2016 4:03 
Спасибо всем.

 trtrtr

link 14.07.2016 6:08 
johnstephenson
Thanks. Yeah, I know. Frankly I didn't think it was such a big deal.
Всем хорошего дня.

 

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