Subject: that и which Кто скажет, какая разница между that и which ? Я перевел фразу с русского - Initiatives which are focused on ......Англоговорящий редактор исправил - Initiatives which are focused on ...... В каких случаях ставить that? a в каких which? |
а что исправил-то? |
моё which на своё that |
виноват , редактор заменил моё which на своё that |
можно тут глянуть :) http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=which+vs+that&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=c6affe93747c32d0 |
зря он наверное это сделал ) |
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link 1.10.2010 9:02 |
А можно фразу целиком? |
"That" is the defining or restrictive pronoun; "which" is the non-defining or non-restrictive pronoun. Examples: The products that were produced at high temperatures were unstable. [This implies that other products were not produced at high temperatures.] The products, which were produced at high temperatures, were unstable. [This implies that all the products were produced at high temperatures and were unstable.] |
In short, whenever the information is essential to identifying the subject, the proper pronoun to use is that. If the information is not essential, or can be set apart with commas, then the pronoun which is more likely to be correct. As is the case with English grammar rules, however, there are going to be some exceptions to this rule. When in doubt, you can try removing the relative clause and ask yourself if the sentence sounds complete and informative. Some grammar experts suggest silently adding the words "by the way" after which to determine if the information is relevant or irrelevant. If "by the way" seems to fit, then the clause is non-restrictive and should be set off with commas. |
natasha396 Иициативы, направленные на совершенствование производства. нЕгуру, спасибо 10-4, понятно, хотя придется напрягаться, применяя that и which |
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link 1.10.2010 9:18 |
тогда редактор все-таки прав |
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link 1.10.2010 9:19 |
а чтобы не напрягаться, нужно писать Initiatives focused on ... ))) |
Lonely Knight Да, это понятно. В тексте встречались такие обороты часто. Меня просто удивило, что где-то он исправлял меня, а где-то нет. Вот я и задал этот вопрос. Спасибо всем |
10-4, вот спасибо коротко и ясно я чесговоря сама вечно парюсь с этими пронаунами.. |
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