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Subject: св и купе - как отразить на английском? railw. уважаемые,подскажите плз как отразить наши стандартные купе и СВ в ж/д вагоне? coupe and luxe? или есть более точные термины? |
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СВ-Pullman car Купе-Сompartment of railway carriage |
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У них есть first class sleeper, second class sleeper ИМХО это roughly equivalent нашим СВ и купе |
| По-современному, СВ наверное даже лучше назвать business class |
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kondorsky спасибо, скорее всего остановлюсь на Вашем варианте |
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Я бы попробовал "люкс" как-то обыграть. Ведь СВ даже обозначают Л часто. В Германии, например, есть просто купе на одного, двоих, троих, четвертых и даже шестерых (самые дешевые)! :) Они пишут обычно слово "купе" + "на 1-2-3-4 персоны". |
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Вот например как это объясняется на британском (как я понял) сайте: What are Russian trains like? There are three main categories of long-distance train in Russia: Firmeny: These are high-quality trains, often with a name such as 'Krasnaya Strela' (Red Arrow), 'Rossiya' or 'Baikal'. ... Skory: Express train. Passazhirsky: Ordinary passenger train, often relatively slow and usually using older carriages. ... The cheapest option, but not recommended! The three classes of accommodation... Long-distance trains within Russia and the former Soviet republics have three main classes, all designed for both daytime and overnight travel given the distances covered by many trains: Spalny Vagon (1st class) In addition to the normal 2-berth sleepers, the best Moscow-St Petersburg overnight train (the 'Krasnaya Strela or 'Red Arrow') also has two deluxe sleeping-cars with 1- & 2-bed compartments with private toilet and shower and TV / DVD entertainment system. These deluxe sleepers were introduced in 2004. Kupé (2nd class) Platskartny (3rd class) Other classes... There are now a number of daytime expresses between cities such as Moscow and St Petersburg, and these have comfortable airline-style seating in ordinary and 'business' classes rather than the sleeper-based classes described above. |
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Grand De Luxe Compartment Premium Class Compartment One, two berth compartments |
| Если информация предназначена для иностранцев, которые никогда не ездили поездом по матушке России, то ключевая информация в переводе должна, имхо, отражать тот факт, что СВ - купе на двоих, а купе - на четверых. А потом уже все остальное... |
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Создается справочная таблица со стоимостью проезда соответственно классу. Содержание вагонов в принципе известно сотрудникам ) Спасибо всем за помощь. |
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Еще плимеры (оттуда же): Firmeny ... trains ... generally have spalny vagon 2-bed sleepers, kupé 4-bed sleepers and sometimes but not always platskartny open-plan dormitory sleepers.
В качестве приложения, зарисовки: Life on board Russian trains... Whichever class of travel you choose, each coach is looked after by a pair of attendants called a 'provodnik' (male) or 'provodnitsa' (female). The provodnik will check your ticket at the door to the sleeper when you board. Shortly after departure, the provodnik will come round to take your ticket and the small bedding fee (less than £1). You may be asked if you would like a glass of black Russian tea ('chai') - this costs about 15p. Bedding (two sheets, pillowcase and towel) is then handed out in sealed packs - blankets and mattresses will already be stacked in your compartment. After a few journeys, you will become quite proficient at making up your bed! A samovar with unlimited free hot water is available at the end of the corridor - pack some tea or coffee, sugar, cuppa soups or water-based drinking chocolate and bring your own mug. Most long distance trains have a restaurant car serving drinks, snacks, and inexpensive full meals - reckon on less than £5 for two courses and a couple of bottles of beer. Security. Are Russian trains safe for families or single women? Yes! There is no need to worry unduly about security on Russian trains, even for families or women travelling alone. How do you think Russian families or solo women travel? By train, of course, like everyone else! Just use common sense as you would in a hotel, locking your door at night and not leaving valuables unattended in your compartment. In addition to the normal lock on the compartment door, 'Spalny Wagon' and 'kupé' compartments have a security latch which stops the door opening more than an inch or two, and which cannot be released from outside. There's also a safe place for your bags at night - if you have a bottom bunk, there is a metal box underneath the bunk which you can only get to by lifting up the bunk - in other words, for anyone to get to your bags, they will have to shift you off your bunk first..! Your provodniks will probably also lock the access doors at each end of the corridor at night to prevent unwanted guests. Men and women share the same compartments in Russia, but it's generally quite safe for women travelling alone. If you're a woman and find yourself in sharing with three men that make you uncomfortable, just ask the provodniks (carriage attendants) if they can move you. |
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