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 VIadimir

link 17.03.2009 20:23 
Subject: word puzzle meisters, you're my last hope!
Guys, please help play out this snarl of malaprops, conundrums and baby-talk!

1.(Не пугайтесь: даю максимально контекст):
Malaprop became enshrined in a common noun, first in the form malaprop and later in malapropism, which is first recorded in 1849. Perhaps that is what Mrs. Malaprop feared when she said, “If I reprehend any thing in this world, it is the use of my oracular tongue, and a nice derangement of epitaphs!” - Меня интересует подразумеваемое предложение в точном виде.
reprehend = comprehend? oracular = vernacular? derangement = arrangement? epitaphs = epithets??? - Помогите, а? (кричит 'too many exclamation points' - приходится выкручиваться:)

2. (Тоже малапропизм:)
Radio actress Jane Ace updated the usually unintentionally humorous misuse or distortion of a word or phrase from the 18th century to the 20th century when she proudly proclaimed herself "a ragged individualist" and offered up a bemused "you could have knocked me down with a fender."
Здесь rugged вместо ragged, а дальше??? ...knocked me down with a fender - что здесь менять? (У меня есть предположения, but that'll compromise an experiment:)

3. "And it is that word 'hummy," my darlings, that marks the first place in The House at Pooh Corner at which Tonstant Weader fwowed up." (Dorothy Parker)
Интересует ТОЛЬКО fwowed up. Я думал даже throwed up уже - не могу больше!

Помогите, 'cause I'm exhausted:)

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:27 
...knocked me down with a fender - ...knocked me down with a feATHER

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:28 
1) наверное "if I APPrehend..."

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:31 
11. "Sure, if I reprehend any thing in this world it is the use of my oracular tongue, and a nice derangement of epitaphs!" (apprehend, vernacular, arrangement, epithets)
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-21-2005-68837.asp

 lisulya

link 17.03.2009 20:31 
a ragged individualist = rugged individul

a fender = a feather ?

 lisulya

link 17.03.2009 20:34 
you could have knocked me down with a fender = you could NOT have knocked me down with a feather (?) -- goes better with "rugged individual" IMHO

 VIadimir

link 17.03.2009 20:36 
d., спасибо! Очень рад, что Вы заглянули. Но точно насчёт feather? Это идиома или аллюзия какая?
apprehend, comprehend - смысл один.

Чуть не забыл (оттуда же): "She's as headstrong as an allegory on the banks of the Nile" - allegory = alligator? (и если да, то alligator в смысле - "крокодил"?)

 VIadimir

link 17.03.2009 20:36 
lisulya, Вам я тоже безумно рад! Спасибо огромное за помощь!

 lisulya

link 17.03.2009 20:38 
fwowed up -- "throwed up" по-моему вполне может быть

 lisulya

link 17.03.2009 20:39 
knock me down with a feather -- типа "соплей не перешибешь" хехе

 nephew

link 17.03.2009 20:40 
3 - throwed up и есть. Сблеванул Constant Reader

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:44 
про крокодила согласен
про feather - да, идиома, обычно про сильное удивление или иной стресс какой.

 VIadimir

link 17.03.2009 20:46 
neWhew! Буду спать спокойно:)

lisulya, пойду читать сл. статью на knock & feather.
Спасибо всем ещё раз!!!

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:48 

knock for a loop

Also, throw for a loop; knock down or over with a feather; . Overcome with surprise or astonishment, as in The news of his death knocked me for a loop, or Being fired without any warning threw me for a loop, or Jane was knocked sideways when she found out she won. The first two of these hyperbolic colloquial usages, dating from the first half of the 1900s, allude to the comic-strip image of a person pushed hard enough to roll over in the shape of a loop. The third hyperbolic term, often put as You could have knocked me down with a feather, intimating that something so light as a feather could knock one down, dates from the early 1800s; the fourth was first recorded in 1925.

 nephew

link 17.03.2009 20:50 
типа "я от этих новостей так ослаб, так ослаб..."

 d.

link 17.03.2009 20:52 
"Со мной чуть истерика не сделалась", - сказал кот, облизывая ложку с икрой.

 VIadimir

link 17.03.2009 20:53 
d. thank u ever so much.
Знал только throw for a loop.

Хи. Никто не знает, есть ли мультик Brer Rabbit in A Briar Patch?))

 

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